Writers Beware

Welcome to Undead Press, we are a zombie/ horror publisher, as well as apocalyptic fiction.”

Or as it should have been edited to say… Welcome to Undead Press. We are a horror publisher specializing in zombies and apocalyptic fiction.

Except they can’t edit. No wait, they can. Or at least they think they can. And they do, to others, recklessly and without notification or morals. Oh but I’ve gotten ahead of myself… let’s back the snark up just a touch.

Undead Press’s welcome message should be enough to scare a writer away. Unfortunately, when we’re young and new to this, we get excited. We don’t like to say no, or walk away, and cannot fathom ignoring any opportunity we see. So we ignore our gut instincts. We pretend not to see red flags. We see other writers being published here or there, and think nothing of giving away our sweat, blood and tears.

Eventually we learn not to do that.

New writers, however, have to learn the rules—sometimes the hard way. It’s a passage of youth, so to speak. But that does not give the publishers a right to abuse their innocence. Of course, a real publisher wouldn’t do that. This blog actually has a dual purpose. A. Tell the new writers a few rules and help their learning curve. B. Call out the publisher that caused this blog in the first place. Let’s start with B…

Undead Press. Created and run by hack writer Anthony Giangregorio. Note he’s a “writer” as well as a publisher. And considering his skills, I feel it’s safe to put him in that category of “publisher” that is really just a bad writer no one wants to publish, so they publish themselves under this publishing house or that (sometimes, like in Tony’s case, under several entities—occasionally at the same time, most of the time one after another failed attempt to hide the truth). They’re not really interested in being a publisher or the responsibilities that comes with that. They’re just interested in seeing their name on books.

Which is why it’s so odd. I mean really… They do what they do out of desperation, so isn’t it cannibalism of some sort to take advantage of those who are just as desperate to see their names on the page? Anthony Giangregorio of Undead Press is a cannibal of unbelievable proportions…

Mandy De Geit was his latest meal.

I say we make him regurgitate.

Mandy’s story is in full on facebook and her blog. Read them. The short version is that Tony “edited” her story. He didn’t fix grammar and spelling or help her tweak her sentence structure. Oh no. Tony turned a non-gendered character into a boy, named the best friend, created a memory for the main character about animal abuse, and added a suggestion of rape. He didn’t fix the its and it’s, or their and there. He changed the essence of the story. He changed the feel. He took away the suspense. He rewrote her words into something that wasn’t hers. And to make it worse, he added new issues. His own inability to edit (or hire a competent editor) is apparent right from the title of her story. It should be She Makes Me Smile, as she put on both the contract and the submitted file. His version—because it’s got a professional editor and everything—is She Make’s Me Smile. Go ahead. Take a minute. Try to make that work in your head. Bob’s eight-year-old couldn’t when we asked him.

When she reacted by expressing her disbelief, he turned into a complete doucherocket. No, doucherocket is way too nice for him, and completely mean to doucherockets worldwide. What he did was a deplorable transgression of the trust a writer puts into a publisher. How he reacted only proved just how low on the food chain he lives. I’ve met pond scum with more morals…and I know some pretty horrible pond scum. He’s so bad, he’s got a blog dedicated to his suckiness.

Oh, but it doesn’t stop there. No no. Her blog and facebook page have both exploded—with even Neil Gaiman piping in. (Read. Jump in. Stand up for your rights as a writer.) But the explosion actually started when I told her to stand up, be vocal, and we hit twitter with it. And everyone started coming out of the woodwork.

Alyn Day (aka @Z0mbiegrl) had a very similar experience. And with a little nudging, she’s got a blog and facebook page explosion of her own. Check them out. Several people on twitter spoke up. Mandy’s blog and facebook are full of people with similar situations. It goes on and on…

Read the atrocities. Comment. And then go share the love/hate relationship with Undead Press. Leave a message on their facebook, twitter them, feedback on their website, however you’d like to take up arms and join the fight. Because that’s what this is, a fight. If we let him get away with this, he’ll do it again. And again and again. If you write, make a noise. If you read, make a noise. And for the love of all that is holy, if it happened to you, tell your story and spread the link.

Why? Because it’s not just a fight. It’s what’s right. And Tony-boy needs to do more than just tell her the story is now NON-exclusive. He needs to give back her FULL rights, void the contract, buy back the copies she bought for her family and friends (since the story in them isn’t hers anymore), and he needs to remove her from that TOC completely. This isn’t a representation of her work, and as a fledgling writer, she cannot afford to have people thinking this is her voice, her style or her story. He’s a fly-by-night hack. He’s probably nothing but a POD (can’t confirm that, if you can, tell us). He can change that manuscript and remove her… if he’s not POD, too bad. He needs to remove her at whatever cost. Regurgitate his latest victim. Like a bad dog that’s eating something it shouldn’t, I say we continue to hit him over the head with a newspaper until he spits it out.

Now then, that other part: tips for new writers to avoid things like this… I think that’s going to be longer than I anticipated and will take the steam from this one, so let’s come back to that later. For now, just remember: any publisher webpage with blatant grammatical issues should be avoided at all costs!

And Tony G, if you’re listening, this isn’t going to just go away. Not until you do the right thing and run off with your tail between your legs.

UPDATES:

1. For any that may have misunderstood me wondering if Tony uses POD for his publications, it was not meant as a slur against POD publishers, but rather pointing out how easily he could remove her from the TOC before any more are printed. Addressed here.

2. New links to check out:

  • Interview with Mandy De Geit
  • Interview with Vincent Bilof (the editor for the anthology in question)
  • Podcast of Robert Swartwood & JF Gonzalez discussing the Undead Press fiasco and other things
  • Nick Mamatas shares Tony’s possible* threat toward Alyn.
  • And if you haven’t been there since this started, you may want to revisit Mandy’s blog, as she now has over 400 comments—some supporting, some sharing similar experiences.

3. And finally… while I’m glad that you’re confiding in me through email and facebook your horror stories of Tony G, please, please, please—for the love of all that is holy—post them online somewhere. Share them. Stand up for yourself. Help others realize how deep this issue goes with Tony so when he reincarnates himself (again) with a new publishing name, people are warned. Post them here, on Mandy’s, or better yet… your own facebook, blog, whatever, and then post links to it here and on Mandy’s. Help us use social networking the way Satan intended…

 

72 Responses to Writers Beware

  • Thanks for your support Kelli.

  • Thanks for your support Kelli.

  • Qweequeg says:

    Thank you for getting this out there Kelli, and thank you for speaking up Mandy & Alyn!

  • Qweequeg says:

    Thank you for getting this out there Kelli, and thank you for speaking up Mandy & Alyn!

  • meteornotes says:

    This guy is a cockroach of the lowest sort. Keep the pressure on him until he goes away and finds a new career more suitable for his talent level, like being shark bait. Though that would be mean to the sharks…

  • meteornotes says:

    This guy is a cockroach of the lowest sort. Keep the pressure on him until he goes away and finds a new career more suitable for his talent level, like being shark bait. Though that would be mean to the sharks…

  • Andy says:

    The “editor” at Undead Press needs to hire Paul Christoforo (of Penny Arcade infamy) as his PR guy. Imagine it!

  • Andy says:

    The “editor” at Undead Press needs to hire Paul Christoforo (of Penny Arcade infamy) as his PR guy. Imagine it!

  • Hannah says:

    This really makes my blood boil. I just co-founded a digital publishing company (not naming it here because it’s not the point right now). I’m the executive editor. To hear these horror stories about the mangled editing jobs is what really upsets me. I am SO SORRY to the writer’s who had to endure all of that. I can’t even imagine treating our writers like that.

    Everyone affected by this scum has my support and sympathy. Ugh.

  • Hannah says:

    This really makes my blood boil. I just co-founded a digital publishing company (not naming it here because it’s not the point right now). I’m the executive editor. To hear these horror stories about the mangled editing jobs is what really upsets me. I am SO SORRY to the writer’s who had to endure all of that. I can’t even imagine treating our writers like that.

    Everyone affected by this scum has my support and sympathy. Ugh.

  • JimPI says:

    It takes a fair amount of courage for a “new” author to speak up on issues like this. Mandy and Alyn are to be commended for doing so. Personally, I think perhaps Mr. Giangregorio may be in need of some new friends on Facebook.

    https://www.facebook.com/anthony.giangregorioauthor

  • JimPI says:

    It takes a fair amount of courage for a “new” author to speak up on issues like this. Mandy and Alyn are to be commended for doing so. Personally, I think perhaps Mr. Giangregorio may be in need of some new friends on Facebook.

    https://www.facebook.com/anthony.giangregorioauthor

  • dejah says:

    The lowest of the low. A leech. and not a particularly honest one, either. I’m glad to see that other writers are standing up and letting the world know what a thoroughly dishonest person this guy is. Cockroaches usually shun sunlight and clarity, so he’ll go scuttling off to some other turdpile pretty quickly, but whether he’ll apologize and eat his mistake (a turdpile of his own making) is yet to be seen.

  • dejah says:

    The lowest of the low. A leech. and not a particularly honest one, either. I’m glad to see that other writers are standing up and letting the world know what a thoroughly dishonest person this guy is. Cockroaches usually shun sunlight and clarity, so he’ll go scuttling off to some other turdpile pretty quickly, but whether he’ll apologize and eat his mistake (a turdpile of his own making) is yet to be seen.

  • Nicely summarized, and glad to see this has gotten traction. I hate seeing vulnerable new writers being taken advantage of this way.

  • Nicely summarized, and glad to see this has gotten traction. I hate seeing vulnerable new writers being taken advantage of this way.

  • Scott says:

    Go get him Kelli! As a mass consumer of horror/genre fiction, it pisses me off to no end to hear of writers treated this way. I want to read what the author has to say (in the best way possible- which is where the real editor comes in- coaxing the WRITER to get the best out of their vision- not molesting the writer’s vision to something they never wanted/intended), not what he’s doing. As a fan of yours, I’m very proud to see you sounding the battle cry for the protection of other authors!
    Scott

  • Scott says:

    Go get him Kelli! As a mass consumer of horror/genre fiction, it pisses me off to no end to hear of writers treated this way. I want to read what the author has to say (in the best way possible- which is where the real editor comes in- coaxing the WRITER to get the best out of their vision- not molesting the writer’s vision to something they never wanted/intended), not what he’s doing. As a fan of yours, I’m very proud to see you sounding the battle cry for the protection of other authors!
    Scott

  • Tim Lieder says:

    I met him at AnthoCon and found his combination of arrogance and stupid fascinating. I did manage to convince an aspiring editor (kid was editing a multi-author collection of tentacle horror) to ignore his “advice”.

    I then looked up his Web site and had to write this – http://marlowe1.livejournal.com/1979914.html

    I think a better rule of thumb when trying to find a market is to ask the question “What do they pay?” because non-paying markets make up about 80% of these terrible markets.

  • Tim Lieder says:

    I met him at AnthoCon and found his combination of arrogance and stupid fascinating. I did manage to convince an aspiring editor (kid was editing a multi-author collection of tentacle horror) to ignore his “advice”.

    I then looked up his Web site and had to write this – http://marlowe1.livejournal.com/1979914.html

    I think a better rule of thumb when trying to find a market is to ask the question “What do they pay?” because non-paying markets make up about 80% of these terrible markets.

  • Wow. WOW.

    This is just nuts. As an as-yet unpublished writer, I must thank you all for telling me about this guy. I don’t write horror, but that doesn’t mean he won’t sleaze off in another direction someday. If I’m ever at a conference or anything and he shows up, I’ll make sure I warn people about him.

  • Wow. WOW.

    This is just nuts. As an as-yet unpublished writer, I must thank you all for telling me about this guy. I don’t write horror, but that doesn’t mean he won’t sleaze off in another direction someday. If I’m ever at a conference or anything and he shows up, I’ll make sure I warn people about him.

  • I dealt with him on the phone for twenty minutes once before hanging up. He told me my small-press model was wrong, I shouldn’t pay anything to writers (saying they owed him for being published), and he went on and on about Permuted Press screwing his vision up. He wanted to take over and release a book I was doing he’d heard of (a non-fiction book about zombie writing) because ‘he had the name recognition that I lacked’…

    He got his name recognition now.

    Armand Rosamilia

  • I dealt with him on the phone for twenty minutes once before hanging up. He told me my small-press model was wrong, I shouldn’t pay anything to writers (saying they owed him for being published), and he went on and on about Permuted Press screwing his vision up. He wanted to take over and release a book I was doing he’d heard of (a non-fiction book about zombie writing) because ‘he had the name recognition that I lacked’…

    He got his name recognition now.

    Armand Rosamilia

  • I too know a fellow writer (that’s quite good) that was screwed over about a year ago by this guy.

    Nicely put, Kelli!

  • I too know a fellow writer (that’s quite good) that was screwed over about a year ago by this guy.

    Nicely put, Kelli!

  • Michael Faun says:

    It’s so tragic and irksome that these parasitic sorry ass people acts this way. Luckily I haven’t been exposed to this douche or anybody else (yet!), but I truly feel sorry for those hard struggling writers out there that has. Know I’ll draw my pen-sword (or keyboard-axe? Hmm.. weapon-something) and spread the word against this thief of words.

    Thanks for the article!

  • Michael Faun says:

    It’s so tragic and irksome that these parasitic sorry ass people acts this way. Luckily I haven’t been exposed to this douche or anybody else (yet!), but I truly feel sorry for those hard struggling writers out there that has. Know I’ll draw my pen-sword (or keyboard-axe? Hmm.. weapon-something) and spread the word against this thief of words.

    Thanks for the article!

  • trinity says:

    Yes, Undead press is POD. But I support many POD publishers, just not this one or Lame Goat Press.

  • trinity says:

    Yes, Undead press is POD. But I support many POD publishers, just not this one or Lame Goat Press.

  • Cindy says:

    I’m thinking that maybe “Undead Press” is one of Publish Americas’ imprints?

  • Cindy says:

    I’m thinking that maybe “Undead Press” is one of Publish Americas’ imprints?

  • I love a good rant, Kelli, and this was a good one in a good cause. But how do you =really= feel? ;-)

    Paul

  • I love a good rant, Kelli, and this was a good one in a good cause. But how do you =really= feel? ;-)

    Paul

  • Usman says:

    OCCUPY UNDEAD PRESS is what I say

  • Usman says:

    OCCUPY UNDEAD PRESS is what I say

  • Rick Knight says:

    Anthony also operates Living Dead Press.

  • Rick Knight says:

    Anthony also operates Living Dead Press.

  • Jake says:

    Beware, he also runs Open Casket Press.

  • Jake says:

    Beware, he also runs Open Casket Press.

  • Nick Cato says:

    This guy interviewed me a few years ago for some magazine his press did. I never received a copy and can’t even remember what the title was. I’m almost afraid to—who knows if he added to what I had said? Either way good for Mandy for calling this “press” out.

  • Nick Cato says:

    This guy interviewed me a few years ago for some magazine his press did. I never received a copy and can’t even remember what the title was. I’m almost afraid to—who knows if he added to what I had said? Either way good for Mandy for calling this “press” out.

  • Keith Hammer says:

    I read one of Anthony Giangregorio’s e-books approximately 4 to 5 years ago. The title I think was THE DARK. And during the reading the plot sounded so vaguely familar- then it hit me – I was reading a retread of Stephen King’s The Mist. The plot from start to finish mimic King’s novella. Simply amazing that someone can actually rip-off another author and get away with it. I immediately deleted the other 2 e-books by this author – Oops HACK!. So after reading Kelli’s article I totally believe it.

  • Keith Hammer says:

    I read one of Anthony Giangregorio’s e-books approximately 4 to 5 years ago. The title I think was THE DARK. And during the reading the plot sounded so vaguely familar- then it hit me – I was reading a retread of Stephen King’s The Mist. The plot from start to finish mimic King’s novella. Simply amazing that someone can actually rip-off another author and get away with it. I immediately deleted the other 2 e-books by this author – Oops HACK!. So after reading Kelli’s article I totally believe it.

  • You may find Mr Giangregorio’s thoughts about originality in the foreword of his novel DEAD MOURNING significant:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935458280?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwperfectbyd-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935458280

  • You may find Mr Giangregorio’s thoughts about originality in the foreword of his novel DEAD MOURNING significant:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935458280?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwperfectbyd-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935458280

  • I’ve contacted Tony G via private message and in public on my website (http://lincolncrisler.info/?p=1111) to ask him what he’s going to do to fix his bullshit. As expected, nothing. And it looks like his Facebook page is gone. We’ll probably have to keep a lookout for his new name/publisher in the near future. Why don’t guys like this just stick with a regular job?

  • I’ve contacted Tony G via private message and in public on my website (http://lincolncrisler.info/?p=1111) to ask him what he’s going to do to fix his bullshit. As expected, nothing. And it looks like his Facebook page is gone. We’ll probably have to keep a lookout for his new name/publisher in the near future. Why don’t guys like this just stick with a regular job?

  • Adam says:

    My personal dealings with Giangregorio, at the end of our working relationship, resulted in him threatening to blackball my name within the writing community. Why? Because I called him out on the same issues written by Kelli above. What she states is true. I tried a similar post about my experiences with Giangregorio’s Living Dead Press and Open Casket Press on the Absolute Write forums. He read what I posted and demanded it to be removed from the internet. Giangregorio isn’t a person I would suggest anyone submits work to. Other writers have better working relationships with him, but I didn’t.

    • Kelli says:

      Seriously Adam… post on mandy’s page or here if you want to, exactly what you emailed me. This crap needs to stop and the more of you that come forward, the better. Better yet, post it on your facebook and then put a link to it here and on mandy’s… different followers spreads the word farther!

  • Adam says:

    My personal dealings with Giangregorio, at the end of our working relationship, resulted in him threatening to blackball my name within the writing community. Why? Because I called him out on the same issues written by Kelli above. What she states is true. I tried a similar post about my experiences with Giangregorio’s Living Dead Press and Open Casket Press on the Absolute Write forums. He read what I posted and demanded it to be removed from the internet. Giangregorio isn’t a person I would suggest anyone submits work to. Other writers have better working relationships with him, but I didn’t.

    • Kelli says:

      Seriously Adam… post on mandy’s page or here if you want to, exactly what you emailed me. This crap needs to stop and the more of you that come forward, the better. Better yet, post it on your facebook and then put a link to it here and on mandy’s… different followers spreads the word farther!

  • Travis Deputy says:

    I’ve had dealings with the prick in the past. Years ago I posted a fair and honest review for one of his books on Amazon and was attacked by his “friends” and Giangregorio himself. Needless to say, I never purchased another of his books. Probably wouldn’t have anyway. Like Kelli said, he’s a hack writer. I’m glad word is getting out on him and it should really hurt him with Brian Keene posting the link to Kelli’s page on his website.

  • Travis Deputy says:

    I’ve had dealings with the prick in the past. Years ago I posted a fair and honest review for one of his books on Amazon and was attacked by his “friends” and Giangregorio himself. Needless to say, I never purchased another of his books. Probably wouldn’t have anyway. Like Kelli said, he’s a hack writer. I’m glad word is getting out on him and it should really hurt him with Brian Keene posting the link to Kelli’s page on his website.

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  • This guy is finished. Well, at least the name Anthony Giangregorio is finished. I’m guessing he’ll go by a penname following this fiasco. Anthony, if you are reading this, which I guess you will be at some point because your name is thrown around here like garbage and you seem to have this strange Looney Tunes Roadrunner/mirror fascination of seeing your name in print… I sincerely would like to say, “Go fuck yourself,” and wave your name goodbye from the publishing world. I mean that. Wholeheartedly. I hope you realize what you are doing is wrong (although I don’t think you will ever believe yourself to be wrong), and how many people you are pissing off by raping the work of others. Look at the names listed in this post, and in the numerous other posts currently discussing this topic. All of these people have connections. Hundreds. Some, thousands. This is going to be a social networking nightmare for you. You are red-flagged in all of our books. Over. Done. Finished. And I am still waving goodbye and will be for a while because you probably won’t go away any time soon.

  • This guy is finished. Well, at least the name Anthony Giangregorio is finished. I’m guessing he’ll go by a penname following this fiasco. Anthony, if you are reading this, which I guess you will be at some point because your name is thrown around here like garbage and you seem to have this strange Looney Tunes Roadrunner/mirror fascination of seeing your name in print… I sincerely would like to say, “Go fuck yourself,” and wave your name goodbye from the publishing world. I mean that. Wholeheartedly. I hope you realize what you are doing is wrong (although I don’t think you will ever believe yourself to be wrong), and how many people you are pissing off by raping the work of others. Look at the names listed in this post, and in the numerous other posts currently discussing this topic. All of these people have connections. Hundreds. Some, thousands. This is going to be a social networking nightmare for you. You are red-flagged in all of our books. Over. Done. Finished. And I am still waving goodbye and will be for a while because you probably won’t go away any time soon.

  • I hope that didn’t come across too harsh. In Steinbeck’s Of Mice and Men, Lennie Small crushes a puppy within his hands, not realizing his strength, and later, a woman’s neck. He has a mental incapacity that unfortunately results in the expense of others. If this is your case, Anthony, and you have some kind of mental incapacity that limits you from realizing what you are doing is wrong, then I apologize. But if you are like George Milton, of sound mind, and know it’s wrong, then I do not. If you have no idea what I’m talking about, I suggest you read the book. It’s full of important things: spelling, grammar, punctuation, formatting, sentence structure, plot, and character development… things that should be rightfully published.

  • I hope that didn’t come across too harsh. In Steinbeck’s Of Mice and Men, Lennie Small crushes a puppy within his hands, not realizing his strength, and later, a woman’s neck. He has a mental incapacity that unfortunately results in the expense of others. If this is your case, Anthony, and you have some kind of mental incapacity that limits you from realizing what you are doing is wrong, then I apologize. But if you are like George Milton, of sound mind, and know it’s wrong, then I do not. If you have no idea what I’m talking about, I suggest you read the book. It’s full of important things: spelling, grammar, punctuation, formatting, sentence structure, plot, and character development… things that should be rightfully published.

  • Just a heads up, another author in Cavalcade of Terror emailed Tony regarding the Tonying of his story and demanding his story back and TONY VOIDED HIS CONTRACT! (We are making waves… Thanks so much)

  • Just a heads up, another author in Cavalcade of Terror emailed Tony regarding the Tonying of his story and demanding his story back and TONY VOIDED HIS CONTRACT! (We are making waves… Thanks so much)

  • Gary Munford says:

    Seems his now deleted threat to “drop by” and visit Alyn Day at her house has turned south for him as well. She called the police, and when they came tot ake the report, they said he had a warrant for his arrest.

    Keep running little man. Keep running. He lives in MA, so I am guessing you can contact the states Attorney General (Martha Coakly still?) and report his “Press” for bad business practices?

  • Gary Munford says:

    Seems his now deleted threat to “drop by” and visit Alyn Day at her house has turned south for him as well. She called the police, and when they came tot ake the report, they said he had a warrant for his arrest.

    Keep running little man. Keep running. He lives in MA, so I am guessing you can contact the states Attorney General (Martha Coakly still?) and report his “Press” for bad business practices?

  • Rich Restucci says:

    Damn. I had no idea. Giangregorio published a short story of mine a few years ago in an anthology. He seemed professional if a tad maniacal on the phone, and was very receptive to my edits of his edits. I’m saddened by this whole fiasco, as I believe a writer should truly own their work at least from an “I made the words” standpoint. Honestly, I was going to ask Tony to publish another short story. I guess Permuted is the way to go. Thanks for the heads up all.

  • Rich Restucci says:

    Damn. I had no idea. Giangregorio published a short story of mine a few years ago in an anthology. He seemed professional if a tad maniacal on the phone, and was very receptive to my edits of his edits. I’m saddened by this whole fiasco, as I believe a writer should truly own their work at least from an “I made the words” standpoint. Honestly, I was going to ask Tony to publish another short story. I guess Permuted is the way to go. Thanks for the heads up all.

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